Vampire The Masquerade Camarilla Edition

Vampire: The Masquerade’s latest edition is trying to deal with sex and power in 2018 Reaction on social media has, unsurprisingly, tended toward outrage on all sides. While current editions of MET Vampire have the Camarilla and Sabbat as the main adversaries, they’ve traditionally been diametrically opposed enough to never be in the same room. Download game resident evil 5. Anarchs with real teeth would provide a political adversary that can’t be shrugged off in game.

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Vampire The Masquerade 5th Edition Camarilla

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  • And You Thought It Would Fail: With the Origins Award for Best RPG of 2019 and Fan Favorite, there has also come out sales figures for the Edition. Thanks in part to V20 reviving interest, international markets, a revived tabletop market thanks to Dungeons and Dragons 5th Edition, and reaching stores as well as online press—V5 is possibly the best selling edition of the franchise.
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    • Many of the Clan weaknesses have been tweaked to make them less debilitating. Gangrel no longer having permanent deformities as a result of their frenzies. Malkavians being established as having mental conditions wholly unrelated to mortal ones. Ventrue are able to feed from other sources than their preferred kind of prey but they derive less nourishment from it. The Banu Haqim don't necessarily have to murder other Kindred for their blood. The Tremere also cannot blood bond other Kindred, which means their flaw was actually made more debilitating.
    • Duskborn have gone from being the Butt-Monkey to a dangerous faction in their own right with Thin Blooded Alchemy being a way for them to be viable in mixed groups.
    • Gehenna being called off definitely counted as this to some, who felt like the “time ticking unpreventable apocalypse” factor basically rendered metaplot as far more important than any actual characters and what they do in the story, ultimately meaning nothing done would have any impact whatsoever. This metaplot being taken away here as such also takes away a lot of the resultant Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy about all of that from players.
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    • Paradox Entertainment absorbed White Wolf into itself and ordered controversial product recalled before being modified to remove offensive material.
    • Commissioning a 5th Edition of the incredibly popular Chicago by Night supplement.
    • Licensing the highly popular Vampire: The Masquerade novels out to be reprinted after being out of print for over 20 years.
    • Vampires are confirmed to be able to have sex and enjoy it. This was Serious Business for a lot of fans.
  • Colbert Bump: The edition got one when Geek & Sundry did a live-stream of an LA by Night campaign.
  • Contested Sequel: While there are many fans who enjoy the new Hunger and Keystone mechanics and appreciate a fresh take on the series, the sheer amount of changes to the source materials, bizarre (and in a few notable cases, downright offensive) stylistic choices, and separating information on what used to be core setting pieces like the Sabbat and the Camarilla into separate books in what many fans believe to be little more than a transparent cash grab, have led others to swear off the Fifth Edition entirely and just stick to the 20th Anniversary Edition.
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  • Critical Research Failure: The 5th edition core rulebook states that vampires are unable to use touchscreen devices unless they have Blush of Life active, as their biologically dead bodies don't have the proper conductivity for touchscreens. This has a number of problems that even a layperson should see including the fact touch screen styluses don't require body heat so why would vampire fingers not work?
  • Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy: An accusation of this due to the focus on being Darker and Edgier as well as playing Villain Protagonist characters. It's now much harder to play a Friendly Neighborhood Vampire. The Anarchs have become more Sabbat-like, the Camarilla more cruel, and the Sabbat are implied to have gotten even more extreme.
  • Streisand Effect: The Chechen government attempted to get a chapter removed from The Camarilla due to its RL depiction of them as persecuting homosexuals. The chapter had been widely loathed among LGBT reviewers and allies as trivializing a real world atrocity. However, the government's actions brought the book to national attention that it never would have achieved normally.
  • They Changed It, So It Sucks: 5th Edition was dogged by complaints about how it was attempting to be Darker and Edgier, metaplot changes, and not being Onyx Path Publishing's planned 4th Edition. The lack of any clans but the original seven, Caitiff, and Thin Bloods was also widely criticized. Plus the changes to Disciplines. The metaplot. Yeah, well, let's just say that there was a lot of complaints about the changes.
  • True Art Is Angsty: One of the stated goals of the developers was to attempt to refocus the game back on personal horror as well as the struggles of being a damned monster. It's much harder to be a Friendly Neighborhood Vampire and you are likely to succumb to your Horror Hunger once a chronicle unless you are very careful. Reception to this has been mixed.
  • Unfortunate Implications:
    • In the playtesting adventure Enlightenment in Blood one of the Sample PCs is strongly implied to be a pedophile. This did not go over well at all even though 'you love the young' was ambiguous. The implication was dark enough to make some fans furious.
    • This article argues that there are significant parallels between the fluff in 5th edition and alt-right/neo-Nazi ideology. After a bit of wobbling, White Wolf posted an AMA in which they took a very unambiguous stand against fascism and explained some of the perceived dog-whistling as an unfortunate lack of knowledge about cultural references like the 1-4-8-8 dice roll example and added a chapter on considerate gaming to their book.
      'Fascism in play: Vampire: The Masquerade is not a fascist-friendly game. If you are a neo-Nazi, 'alt-righter', or whatever you’re calling yourself nowadays, we urge you to put this book down and call someone who you trust to talk about where you went so wrong in your life.'
    • The 'Is It right to feed Vitae to a Baby?' chapter of the Anarch guide approached memetic levels as a domestic abusing circle of Thin Bloods were treated for Black Humor. This section was later removed from the Anarch guide when it was reprinted.
    • The decision to include the Real Life persecution and genocide of the LGBTQ community in Chechnya as a setting piece in the 5th edition Camarilla sourcebook was NOT taken well, prompting an apology from White Wolf and the possibility of a change in staff. While White Wolf games haven't shied away from things like The Holocaust or the slave trade in the past, what made this example particularly egregious was the downplaying of the sheer magnitude of the suffering in the region and the idea that the Camarilla implicitly condones it was simply a bridge too far to many players, especially given the context of the aforementioned perception of dog-whistling at the alt-right in the previous book. An in-character section where a jaded vampire observer discussed how the persecution of homosexuals was possibly meant to serve as a distractor from the vampiric activities at the heart of the government did not help. It was so bad that Paradox Interactive accelerated plans to fully integrate White Wolf into itself, heralding the end of White Wolf as an independent company.
      • The overwhelmingly negative reaction to V5's Camarilla book led to White Wolf issuing an apology and halting production of both books to edit out a highly offensive reference to the ongoing persecution of the LGBTQ community in Chechnya. When reprinted, they didn't have the offending chapters but had substitutes. Became controversial when it was revealed the Chechen government wanted it shut down for raising awareness of its crimes against homosexuals. Also, for depicting its leadership as a literal collection of vampires. Many critics became more forgiving of the chapter after that. The editor of that chapter has since posted a explanation of the intent.
  • Vindicated by History: Vampire: The Masquerade 5th Edition won the 2019 Origins Award for BEST RPG and Fan Favorite.
  • What an Idiot!: The Camarilla is responsible for the Second Inquisition. They attempted to use the world's governments against the Sabbat and this resulted in the ABC agencies discovering vampires exist.
This entry was posted on 12.09.2019.